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@maddy:Harae boy the team selection for this type of series may be captain's prediction but for the worldcup they will select carefully with all opinions verified and they can't go just as per their wish:):)
I think during every selection he is under discussion but then he was then pushed to waiting list and i think there is a possiblity:)
What i can say is wait till clt20 then we will get clear about his odi future:)
I think during every selection he is under discussion but then he was then pushed to waiting list and i think there is a possiblity:)
What i can say is wait till clt20 then we will get clear about his odi future:)
dravia on 31 Aug 2010, 07:02 PM
@dravia:but let us try to be practical.Dhoni and Kirsten doesnt want Dravid in ODIS.What to do da???
maddydravid on 30 Aug 2010, 11:33 PM
Hey maddy don't loose hope:)
Even if dravid scores one run of 200 balls it's a joy for us seeing his strokes:)
Even if dravid scores one run of 200 balls it's a joy for us seeing his strokes:)
dravia on 30 Aug 2010, 06:09 PM
For all i'm saying this:
After world cup dravid was axed from odi
Team india performs well in foreign soils and therefore they decided to leave dravid as aoption
after two years seeing dravid's performance in ipl2
DRAVID WAS RECALLED
Then again dropped due to dhoni's format of going with young legs.
But now if champion's league is a crucial one and it will show us who are all eligible.
My dream:
march 2011-dravid ended our worldcup thirsty after 28 years:):):)
This will happen:)
After world cup dravid was axed from odi
Team india performs well in foreign soils and therefore they decided to leave dravid as aoption
after two years seeing dravid's performance in ipl2
DRAVID WAS RECALLED
Then again dropped due to dhoni's format of going with young legs.
But now if champion's league is a crucial one and it will show us who are all eligible.
My dream:
march 2011-dravid ended our worldcup thirsty after 28 years:):):)
This will happen:)
dravia on 30 Aug 2010, 06:07 PM
@all:FRANKLY SPEAKING AFTER ALL THIS HUMILIATION BY BCCI,EVEN IF DRAVID IS OFFERED A CHANCE IN 2011 WORLD CUP,HE SHOULD BLINDLY REJECT IT!!!BCCI AND THE SELECTORS SUCK!!!
maddydravid on 29 Aug 2010, 02:02 PM
I would not say that Rahul Dravid should directly be inducted in the team. But what I argue is that give him a fair chance to compete and perform. If he doesn't, there is no question of any argument, but I believe he is still good enough to form a part of the playing 11 for the team.
For me he is any day more dependable.
For me he is any day more dependable.
Sujansalian on 29 Aug 2010, 12:09 AM
@ Raghu sir,
To continue your point, just like any product has a life cycle in marketing language, namely Introduction, Growth, Maturity and Decline, the same concept can be applied to Cricket as well.
What happens when you introduce a product that refuses to grow? Your next step would be to flush it out of market. Here, the likes of Ravindra Jadeja and Rohit Sharma have been given enough time to grow, but they haven't. So what you do, you remove them from international arena, send them back to domestic cricket and make provisions for new product (read players) to be launched.
There are some prouducts which are in maturity stage but the company makes an error in predicting its decline stage and flushes it out of the market, thinking that it is no longer good. So what does the company loses ? - An opportunity to make more profits. Apply it to cricket, A player of calibre of Rahul Dravid, who still has a potential to play in international scene, but the selectors think otherwise and remove him from the team. So what does the team loses? An oppurtunity to win more matches under the expertise of legend.
My main grudge was that some players are given excess opportunities, while others are lying dormant. Time is fast running out, and you cannot really each and every player some 40 odd matches to prove himself, if you are keeping the world cup in mind. As Suhas2090 mentioned, It would have been very right of Dhoni to give Sourabh Tiwari a chance in place of Karthik or Rohit Sharma. Had I been in Dhoni's place I wouldn't have thought twice before playing him in finals as well, because for me, the bigger picture is the World Cup.
The players who would form the crux of the team according to me are:
1. Sachin
2.Sehwag
3.Gambhir
4.Raina
5.Yuvi
6.Dhoni
7.Zaheer
8.Bhajji
9.Nehra
10.Praveen
For other 5 spots (2 bowlers, 2 batsmen & 1 reserve WK) , there is intense competition. On the basis of domestic and India A side performance, selected players should be given equal number of oppurtunities to cement their place in the squad.
To continue your point, just like any product has a life cycle in marketing language, namely Introduction, Growth, Maturity and Decline, the same concept can be applied to Cricket as well.
What happens when you introduce a product that refuses to grow? Your next step would be to flush it out of market. Here, the likes of Ravindra Jadeja and Rohit Sharma have been given enough time to grow, but they haven't. So what you do, you remove them from international arena, send them back to domestic cricket and make provisions for new product (read players) to be launched.
There are some prouducts which are in maturity stage but the company makes an error in predicting its decline stage and flushes it out of the market, thinking that it is no longer good. So what does the company loses ? - An opportunity to make more profits. Apply it to cricket, A player of calibre of Rahul Dravid, who still has a potential to play in international scene, but the selectors think otherwise and remove him from the team. So what does the team loses? An oppurtunity to win more matches under the expertise of legend.
My main grudge was that some players are given excess opportunities, while others are lying dormant. Time is fast running out, and you cannot really each and every player some 40 odd matches to prove himself, if you are keeping the world cup in mind. As Suhas2090 mentioned, It would have been very right of Dhoni to give Sourabh Tiwari a chance in place of Karthik or Rohit Sharma. Had I been in Dhoni's place I wouldn't have thought twice before playing him in finals as well, because for me, the bigger picture is the World Cup.
The players who would form the crux of the team according to me are:
1. Sachin
2.Sehwag
3.Gambhir
4.Raina
5.Yuvi
6.Dhoni
7.Zaheer
8.Bhajji
9.Nehra
10.Praveen
For other 5 spots (2 bowlers, 2 batsmen & 1 reserve WK) , there is intense competition. On the basis of domestic and India A side performance, selected players should be given equal number of oppurtunities to cement their place in the squad.
Sujansalian on 29 Aug 2010, 12:04 AM
As IPL matures, we will end up seeing 3 types of players:
1) Good for IPL, not good enough for India
2) Great for India, not good enough for IPL
3) Great/Good for both IPL and India
Today we saw many who belonged to the first category!
The 3rd category will always be the legends.
The 2nd category will be the most tricky to find/get. It is like finding “good talent” for the public sector in today’s economy.
@Sujan - would you come up with your Final 11 / 15 for WC2011?
1) Good for IPL, not good enough for India
2) Great for India, not good enough for IPL
3) Great/Good for both IPL and India
Today we saw many who belonged to the first category!
The 3rd category will always be the legends.
The 2nd category will be the most tricky to find/get. It is like finding “good talent” for the public sector in today’s economy.
@Sujan - would you come up with your Final 11 / 15 for WC2011?
Raghunath on 28 Aug 2010, 10:39 PM
@ Suhas2090
First of all thanx a lot! :)
Regarding Ravindra Jadeja, the question I am asking is how much is too much? I do not have any hatred against him as such. But we need to understand that we are not in New Zealand, where there is a dearth of domestic talent because the country itself is too small. In India, we have 10 players lined up to fill one vacant spot. I always believe that Competition kills competition. So the best way is send him back to domestic cricket, let him mend his drawbacks and his attitude, instead of letting him do the same on international arena at the cost of other cricketers.
First of all thanx a lot! :)
Regarding Ravindra Jadeja, the question I am asking is how much is too much? I do not have any hatred against him as such. But we need to understand that we are not in New Zealand, where there is a dearth of domestic talent because the country itself is too small. In India, we have 10 players lined up to fill one vacant spot. I always believe that Competition kills competition. So the best way is send him back to domestic cricket, let him mend his drawbacks and his attitude, instead of letting him do the same on international arena at the cost of other cricketers.
Sujansalian on 28 Aug 2010, 10:06 PM
Before I make my next point...Sujan i LOVED the read...amazing and entertaining :)
I agree that even Jadeja needs to be played but at the same time hes taking his position for granted now. His attitude needs a mend both on and off the field. I am not asking for a complete Jadeja boycott but a threat to his position... positive competitiveness is always good.
Secondly is the deal with selectors constant harping of inexperience excuse won't help anybody's cause. If u dnt give a chance they wont get experience...no rocket science there
I agree that even Jadeja needs to be played but at the same time hes taking his position for granted now. His attitude needs a mend both on and off the field. I am not asking for a complete Jadeja boycott but a threat to his position... positive competitiveness is always good.
Secondly is the deal with selectors constant harping of inexperience excuse won't help anybody's cause. If u dnt give a chance they wont get experience...no rocket science there
Suhas2090 on 28 Aug 2010, 07:22 PM
@ Wizardprince and lotuspetals: Thanx a lot!
@ Suhas2090: U have made a very valid point about a player being in the squad for a trip rather than to play for the team. In this case, Tiwary should have been given a chance instead of Karthik, for he has not aggregated even 50 runs in all the matches he has played in this tri-series.
Enough opportunity has been provided to the likes of Jadeja. It is high time Dhoni realises that a all-rounder cannot be developed just by making him play every match.
@ Suhas2090: U have made a very valid point about a player being in the squad for a trip rather than to play for the team. In this case, Tiwary should have been given a chance instead of Karthik, for he has not aggregated even 50 runs in all the matches he has played in this tri-series.
Enough opportunity has been provided to the likes of Jadeja. It is high time Dhoni realises that a all-rounder cannot be developed just by making him play every match.
Sujansalian on 28 Aug 2010, 05:41 PM
the sad part is if we don't rotate these pacers they WILL get injured. A pool of some pacers should be made and rotated. As for the batsmen a very strict discipline is needed. Not only for the batsman but bowlers too... Perform or perish. This whole deal about i'm indispensable should go. I agree Dravid n Uthappa should be backed. Its a sad state of affairs but BBCi seems to be very parochial
Suhas2090 on 28 Aug 2010, 11:56 AM
@ Suhas: You have made a very valid point about not trying out fresh faces despite the repeated failures of tried and tested Rohit, Dinesh and Jadeja.
However, as the time is really running out, I would wish to have the experienced Rahul, Robin back in the lineup. With all his failures, Yuvraj can still come back on any given day and take the rival bowlers apart. He would be good as a backup alongwith Kohli. Raina should play regularly as he has been in the form of his life in the last six months.
Mithun looks good for an all-rounder and even Ishant can be handy tail-ender.
However, as the time is really running out, I would wish to have the experienced Rahul, Robin back in the lineup. With all his failures, Yuvraj can still come back on any given day and take the rival bowlers apart. He would be good as a backup alongwith Kohli. Raina should play regularly as he has been in the form of his life in the last six months.
Mithun looks good for an all-rounder and even Ishant can be handy tail-ender.
Wizardprince on 28 Aug 2010, 11:38 AM
Its a wondeful detailed post indeed...Written with lots of care...Congrats..!
lotuspetals on 28 Aug 2010, 11:21 AM
What remains a question in my head is the fact that why are we not trying out new batsmen. I mean why give Karthik a chance again and again if he's really not using it. Saurabh Tiwary has performed exceedingly well but the only place we see him is on the bench when asked why the same excuse of experience is given. If you don't give him a chance how do you give him experience. Strangely enough,Manish Pandey is hardly taken to notice by the selectors. And why are we not honing an all-rounder. Mithun is a handy batsman and in my opinion he can be moulded into a fine all rounder. Jadeja is taking his position for granted. The time is short and its high time we start looking at the broader picture
Suhas2090 on 28 Aug 2010, 10:12 AM
hey guys......rahul dravid is a necessity....just look how often d current team's middle order is blown apart by mediocore bowling....yes,we have had top order failures earlier also but never dis kind of humiliation...lyk all out in 100.....d reason was RAHUL DRAVID....he cud manufacture a partnership with aneone...earlier it was kaif n yuvi who helped india recover along with dravid....
goin on to odr aspects....robin is d man....a perfect no. 7 batsman...a finisher...he can break ne bowlng attack with his willow...he is hungry 2 start again...my ideal team wud be....
1.sachin
2.sehwag
3.dravid
4.gambhir
5.raina/kohli
6.robin
7.dhoni
8.praveen
9.zaheer
10.bhajji
11.nehra/mithun/munaf/sreesanth
i noe wid dis team 5th bowling option is a worry....but i thnk sehwag is a much btr bowlr dan jadeja...he sumtyms bowls btr dan bhajji 2....
he can bowl 10 ovrs....raina,kohli can giv him suport...
no yuvi in my team...he is totally rubbish now....
goin on to odr aspects....robin is d man....a perfect no. 7 batsman...a finisher...he can break ne bowlng attack with his willow...he is hungry 2 start again...my ideal team wud be....
1.sachin
2.sehwag
3.dravid
4.gambhir
5.raina/kohli
6.robin
7.dhoni
8.praveen
9.zaheer
10.bhajji
11.nehra/mithun/munaf/sreesanth
i noe wid dis team 5th bowling option is a worry....but i thnk sehwag is a much btr bowlr dan jadeja...he sumtyms bowls btr dan bhajji 2....
he can bowl 10 ovrs....raina,kohli can giv him suport...
no yuvi in my team...he is totally rubbish now....
RCBIS4REAL on 28 Aug 2010, 07:23 AM
Nice post. Dravid and Robin need to be in the scheme of things while finalizing the world cup playing 11. Whereas Rahul is hugely experienced player and would benefit the side anyday, Robin is certainly far more matured and hungry to perform on the big scene after a prolonged waiting period. I would want the team management to give these two guys a settle in period in the next five six months, instead of wasting time and losing games by playing non-starters like Rohit Sharma, Dinesh Kartik and highly forgettable Ravindra Jadeja.
With the number of chances given to him, even a club player would have started performing by now.
With the number of chances given to him, even a club player would have started performing by now.
Wizardprince on 28 Aug 2010, 02:29 AM
@ Dravia: That line up looks great. But Zaheer is unreliable in terms of his injury problem. Dravid really needs to be pulled in the team, but thats a difficult scenario with selectors not favouring him.
@ Holmes: Cricketology is the way to go, specially in the off-season :)
@ maddy-dravid: May be Dravid fans should write a petition to BCCI. Bring him back or else we quit watching Cricket;)
@ Holmes: Cricketology is the way to go, specially in the off-season :)
@ maddy-dravid: May be Dravid fans should write a petition to BCCI. Bring him back or else we quit watching Cricket;)
Sujansalian on 27 Aug 2010, 11:17 PM
But 1 thing is for sure...if india dont select Dravid for 2011 wc squad...indian team will lose surely because of instability and the curse of Dravidians.
maddydravid on 27 Aug 2010, 10:03 PM
Well dravia lets stop dreaming,with this politics it is unlikely that Dravid will be in the ODI team anymore.i think we will never see Dravid again wearing the proud dark blue nike shirt.only white and red i guess:(
maddydravid on 27 Aug 2010, 10:02 PM 
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India's preparation for the mega event next year seems less than ideal!
While the World talks of two mega powers - India and China, being the force to reckon with in the near future, both these countries seem to be walking in a opposite direction. China, definitely with the successful hosting of Beijing Olympics cleared all the negative thoughts one had with it. One thing to be noted is that how quickly the image of country changes after it hosts any mega sporting event in a efficient manner- both in case of China and South Africa.
India on the other hand has more than one opportunities to prove its mettle. The Common Wealth Games and the Cricket World Cup in 2011 are two major events lined up. While the Common Wealth Games have turned into Con Wealth Games, the Cricket fraternity in India would not like to see such a fiasco for the Cricket World Cup. With fiasco, I mean both in terms of Administration and Performance.
Leaving aside the administrative and non-Cricketing matters for BCCI to resolve and talking only about the performance part, it still seems less than ideal. For a team which holds number one ranking in tests, least I can say is that it is not the kind of effort, a champion team puts in.
Talking of the ongoing Tri-Series, it will be very much fair to say that India are in finals not because of any team effort, but because of one man - Virender Sehwag. Indian batsmen have scored 585 runs so far, out of which Sehwag has scored 240 runs. Dhoni is the second highest contributor with 73 runs and the third highest contributor is 57 runs in form of extras. Now that is enough to put all other batsmen to shame. A hallmark of a Champion team is its team effort and not individual brilliance.
A question that comes to my mind is, Is this the ideal team for World Cup? No doubt, we would be bolstered by the return of Sachin Tendulkar, Gautam Gambhir, Zaheer Khan and Harbhajan Singh. But is this the bench strength we have?
The search of the all-rounder still goes on. Dhoni is still hoping that Ravindra Jadeja would turn into one, if not by his talent, then by the quantum of cricket he has played. Irfan Pathan still seems to me as a better choice compared to Ravindra Jadeja. This guy must definitely thank his stars, for other deserving players are not even getting a chance to enter the team.
The middle order looks in complete disarray. It is high time for players like Rohit Sharma and Dinesh Karthik to stand up and be counted. How long would they be excused for being youngsters? The other thing is the attitude of many middle order batsmen. Do we remember the times when Mohammed Kaif and Yuvraj Singh were the new entrants in the team? Do we see a change in attitude compared to then? I do not know how Dhoni is going to fix this middle order problem, but one of the solutions was given by a gentleman from our neighbouring country - Wasim Akram. Recently he had suggested bringing Rahul Dravid into the scheme of things for he still has lot of Cricket left in him.
The bowling unit is doing well in pathches. But on course to the World Cup, Dhoni may face a problem of plenty to chose from Zaheer Khan, Ashish Nehra, Praveen Kumar, Munaf Patel, Sreesanth, RP Singh, Abhimanyu Mithun, Ishant Sharma, Harbhajan Singh, Amit Mishra, Pragyan Ojha etc. Also the frequency with each bowlers are getting injured, the fitness needs to be looked into as well.
May Dhoni and Co may fix all these problems before the World Cup and give our little master a perfect farewell gift, for most probably this is his last world cup!