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Posted: 10 April 2013 12:29 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Kohli’s batting saved our bowlers bad performance yesterday, even though it was a batting pitch Vinay was bowling to the strengths of Cameroon white. If u give him width he frees his arms and swings the bat hard. u shud never give width to batsman especially in T20’s except u have express speed. Also vinay’s slower deliveries are too much predictable and were hit out of park every time. He shud just stick to wicket to wicket and bowl as fast as he can.

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Posted: 10 April 2013 01:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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seems like the earlier match against Sun Risers (super over) had an effect on Vinay.  Also Henriques should have been given a bowling spell earlier.  He is a wicket taker and would have helped to have him bowl around the 11th over.

Virat played a great captain’s knock however he should now look to handle the bowlers well.  This is exactly what Gambhir did for KKR to win last year, make the bowling moves smartly.

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Posted: 10 April 2013 01:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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I prefer pankaj singh over vinay kumar .. the reason being vinay kumar s pace is medium and is optimum for any player to clear the ropes , he should focus on bowling offstump line and chest height bowling as it is very difficult to hit a boundary or so , pankaj will extract descent pace and bounce from chinnaswamy pitch .

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Posted: 10 April 2013 03:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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vinay is a much better bowler than pankaj, no doubt. i’m saying he needs to correct his line and not bowl slower ones too often. but when zaheer is ready may be he needs to sit out.

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Posted: 10 April 2013 04:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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sameer-joseph - 10 April 2013 03:47 PM

vinay is a much better bowler than pankaj, no doubt. i’m saying he needs to correct his line and not bowl slower ones too often. but when zaheer is ready may be he needs to sit out.

The problem with vinay is hes trying too many things and his slower ones aren’t that effective , bowling slower bouncers in a full length is like a dolly , pankaj has been amongst the highest wicket takers in the past 3 editions of ranji trophy and he should be rewarded and against kkr at home is a perfect oppurtunity for him . He was also vocal about his displeasuer abt not being picked for india , so he will definitely prove a point to BCCI selectors
If we dont experiment in the first 4 games then when will we give our faster bowlers a chance ? Vinay must be told to improve upon his stock delivery and practice variation . His slinging action which he tried in ipl 4 must be tried again.
Thia will make a strong point and bringing zak as soon as he is fit is pointless , we must not rush him and show that star players arent given special treatment atleast in RCB

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Posted: 10 April 2013 04:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Will bounce back

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Posted: 10 April 2013 07:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Vinay should bounce back

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Posted: 10 April 2013 08:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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let keep faith on him

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Posted: 10 April 2013 09:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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he will fella… have faith…

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Posted: 11 April 2013 03:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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amith-pavan - 10 April 2013 04:40 PM
sameer-joseph - 10 April 2013 03:47 PM

vinay is a much better bowler than pankaj, no doubt. i’m saying he needs to correct his line and not bowl slower ones too often. but when zaheer is ready may be he needs to sit out.

The problem with vinay is hes trying too many things and his slower ones aren’t that effective , bowling slower bouncers in a full length is like a dolly , pankaj has been amongst the highest wicket takers in the past 3 editions of ranji trophy and he should be rewarded and against kkr at home is a perfect oppurtunity for him . He was also vocal about his displeasuer abt not being picked for india , so he will definitely prove a point to BCCI selectors
If we dont experiment in the first 4 games then when will we give our faster bowlers a chance ? Vinay must be told to improve upon his stock delivery and practice variation . His slinging action which he tried in ipl 4 must be tried again.
Thia will make a strong point and bringing zak as soon as he is fit is pointless , we must not rush him and show that star players arent given special treatment atleast in RCB

Very good points highlighted by you. Fortunately we still have some people contributing meaningful points which can benifit the team rather than making immature comments :). The problem with Vinay Kumar is that he is not an express bowler by any means bowling at 120-130 KPH. Since he lacks pace its all the more important that he maintains his line and length especially in the slog overs. Change of pace in slog overs can be an effective strategy only if its used as a stock ball and the line and length is maintained. As rightly said bowling a slow bouncer will invite trouble and at Vinays pace this wont be a surprise for the batsman either. Vinay Kumr should perfect the art of bowling yorkers in the slog over consistantly. At the moment he ends up bowling 5 length balls and one yorker in the slog overs and gets hit all over the place. I am not sure what the RCB bowling coach Venketesh Prasad is doing to correct this as this was problem for RCB bowlers from last season and the probelm still persists as evident from the last two games against SRH.

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Posted: 12 April 2013 06:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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we have rp now to bowl in the depth vinay will improve

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Posted: 12 April 2013 10:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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why are we focussing on our bowling problems alone.  Vinay admitted yesterday that he needs to improve.

Lets think about our batting line-up.  Opening contribution needs to improve, we cannot expect Virat and Chris to take us to the shore everytime.  This has been the problem with RCB for previous two seasons as well.  Indian players need to contribute.

No player will get more than 3-4 chances and hence Mayank is around that limit as he plays reckless shots.  While we have Abhinav Mukund and Sunny Sohal warming the bench we cannot take Mayank to take his place for granted. 

In some situations send some indian players before AB, Henriques (eg Arun Karthik or Rahul earlier) this will give them crucial match practice.
In any match if there is a collapse they will be prepared.  As of now I am for replacing Mayank.

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Posted: 12 April 2013 01:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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As of now RCB has three areas to address and if they do that quickly they will become strong contenders for this years title.
1) Need a consistant and reliable Indian player to open with Gayle. As rightly said Mayank Agarwal is not a dependable option. At the most he can play a quick fire innings of 20 or 30 runs and then throw away his wicket. In crunch matches this can be fatal. The options that we have now is Pujara and Sohal. Pujara will return only in the last week of April and that means we can try out Sohal for the opening slot. Once Pujara returns he should be the one opening in all matches

2)The other weak area is the number 6 slot in the batting line up. We have already tried Karun Nair and Agarwal at that position and they have proved to be utter failures. The need of the hour is a strong Indian batsman who can score quickly in the slog overs if we have a batting collapse. We have tried L Rahul in that position in the last match against KKR but he didnt get a chance to bat and I am not sure how good a player he is? The other options that RCB has is Tiwary, Sheldon Jackson or in a worst case scenario play a foreign allrounder (Mcdonald or Barnwell) and that means we have to compromise on a foreign bowler (Murali, Vettori or Rampaul). So in the next few matches RCB needs to try L Rahul, Tiwary and Jackson and see who can fill that slot for the playoffs.

3) The third weak area for RCB is the bowling inconsistency especially in the death overs. They made good improvement in the last match against KKR as far as bowling in death overs is concerned. But there is a question mark over the form of Vinay Kumar who continue to leak runs. We need to quickly identify a couple of bowlers who can be effective in the death overs. In the coming matches we need to try out the other bowlers that we have especially Pankaj Singh, Ravi Rampaul and even Zaheer Khan if he is fit.

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Posted: 12 April 2013 07:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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its not fair to blame a single person….....

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Posted: 12 April 2013 08:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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he did really great

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Posted: 13 April 2013 07:05 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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joshil-raj1 - 12 April 2013 01:22 PM

As of now RCB has three areas to address and if they do that quickly they will become strong contenders for this years title.
1) Need a consistant and reliable Indian player to open with Gayle. As rightly said Mayank Agarwal is not a dependable option. At the most he can play a quick fire innings of 20 or 30 runs and then throw away his wicket. In crunch matches this can be fatal. The options that we have now is Pujara and Sohal. Pujara will return only in the last week of April and that means we can try out Sohal for the opening slot. Once Pujara returns he should be the one opening in all matches

2)The other weak area is the number 6 slot in the batting line up. We have already tried Karun Nair and Agarwal at that position and they have proved to be utter failures. The need of the hour is a strong Indian batsman who can score quickly in the slog overs if we have a batting collapse. We have tried L Rahul in that position in the last match against KKR but he didnt get a chance to bat and I am not sure how good a player he is? The other options that RCB has is Tiwary, Sheldon Jackson or in a worst case scenario play a foreign allrounder (Mcdonald or Barnwell) and that means we have to compromise on a foreign bowler (Murali, Vettori or Rampaul). So in the next few matches RCB needs to try L Rahul, Tiwary and Jackson and see who can fill that slot for the playoffs.

3) The third weak area for RCB is the bowling inconsistency especially in the death overs. They made good improvement in the last match against KKR as far as bowling in death overs is concerned. But there is a question mark over the form of Vinay Kumar who continue to leak runs. We need to quickly identify a couple of bowlers who can be effective in the death overs. In the coming matches we need to try out the other bowlers that we have especially Pankaj Singh, Ravi Rampaul and even Zaheer Khan if he is fit.

pankaj singh has been inconsistent in the ranji trophy season and making changes from a winning team is not great management. as a bowling unit rcb did very well. vinay has won us one game and another almost. his feilding also got us a wicket and replacing a player with so much credentials and proven talent will require a tear away overseas full time international. we all know we cant compromise our batting line up for that

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