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Tiwary SHOULD OPEN !!! Barnwell SHOULD PLAY !!!
Posted: 03 May 2013 11:55 AM   [ Ignore ]
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Hey Guys,

As the title suggests I think Tiwary should Open the innings from now on, he is calm and composed facing more balls rather than rushing him nearing the end of an innings, he is sound in technique and stronger than most of the inexperienced Indian batsmen we have in our side.

Barnwell should replace Muralitharan, In fact Kartik did a better job on the turning pitch due to his change of pace. Barnwell needs to be given a chance we need to know his potential and if he is a mini Gayle down the order and can provide a bowling option.

This is my revised team for the next match against Kings XI.

Chris Gayle
Saurabh Tiwary
Virat Kohli
AB de Villiers
Moises Henriques
Christopher Barnwell
Arun Karthick
Vinay Kumar
Syed Mohammad / Jaydev Unadkat
R P Singh
Kartik Murali

Please share your thoughts, thanks ! Go RCB !!!

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Posted: 03 May 2013 12:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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ekam - 03 May 2013 11:55 AM

Hey Guys,

As the title suggests I think Tiwary should Open the innings from now on, he is calm and composed facing more balls rather than rushing him nearing the end of an innings, he is sound in technique and stronger than most of the inexperienced Indian batsmen we have in our side.

Barnwell should replace Muralitharan, In fact Kartik did a better job on the turning pitch due to his change of pace. Barnwell needs to be given a chance we need to know his potential and if he is a mini Gayle down the order and can provide a bowling option.

This is my revised team for the next match against Kings XI.

Chris Gayle
Saurabh Tiwary
Virat Kohli
AB de Villiers
Moises Henriques
Christopher Barnwell
Arun Karthick
Vinay Kumar
Syed Mohammad / Jaydev Unadkat
R P Singh
Kartik Murali

Please share your thoughts, thanks ! Go RCB !!!


Y do v need to persist with RP Singh & not give others warming the bench a chance. Also Arun Karthik can make way for a batsman & AB can keep wickets. A catch & stumping chance were missed yesterday.

Otherwise, I too think Moises & Barnwell both should play. Both can bat & bowl. T20 is about all rounders. CSK has 3 all rounders who bowl full 4 overs each.

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Posted: 03 May 2013 03:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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ekam - 03 May 2013 11:55 AM

Hey Guys,

As the title suggests I think Tiwary should Open the innings from now on, he is calm and composed facing more balls rather than rushing him nearing the end of an innings, he is sound in technique and stronger than most of the inexperienced Indian batsmen we have in our side.

Barnwell should replace Muralitharan, In fact Kartik did a better job on the turning pitch due to his change of pace. Barnwell needs to be given a chance we need to know his potential and if he is a mini Gayle down the order and can provide a bowling option.

This is my revised team for the next match against Kings XI.

Chris Gayle
Saurabh Tiwary
Virat Kohli
AB de Villiers
Moises Henriques
Christopher Barnwell
Arun Karthick
Vinay Kumar
Syed Mohammad / Jaydev Unadkat
R P Singh
Kartik Murali

Please share your thoughts, thanks ! Go RCB !!!

i completely agree our bowling attack should consist of only one spinner either kartik or syed and 3 pacers and 2 allrounders

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Posted: 03 May 2013 08:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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avidRCBian - 03 May 2013 12:56 PM

Y do v need to persist with RP Singh & not give others warming the bench a chance. Also Arun Karthik can make way for a batsman & AB can keep wickets. A catch & stumping chance were missed yesterday.

Otherwise, I too think Moises & Barnwell both should play. Both can bat & bowl. T20 is about all rounders. CSK has 3 all rounders who bowl full 4 overs each.

Totally agree, but whose gonna prove RP wrong, he bowled well and it seems as if he will stay, if ever they need a change RP should go and give Mithun or someone else a chance.

Arun Karthik is useless IMO, the only reason they are giving him a chance is to maybe give Ab a break from keeping and Arun gets some experience along the way, can’t think of any other reason…, he should give way to all those Indian allrounders/batsmen we have warming the benches… lol

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Posted: 03 May 2013 09:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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But what about Rampaul? Yeah you are right for 2 matches we can give Barnwell a chance…..But then Rampaul should be back…

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Posted: 03 May 2013 09:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Frankly speaking I have seen Barnwell played only once , and that was in 2010 match between RCB vs Guyana , RCB won that match Guyana did not played well in that match but Barnwell Stuck there till the end and made 33 runs Highest for there Team Batting Innings

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Posted: 03 May 2013 11:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Have you guys read this news article ?

http://truthdive.com/2013/05/02/vijay-mallya-is-still-the-owner-of-royal-challengers-ipl-team.html

It states “The recent RCB outings did not see Vijay Mallya in his form. RCB in second spot after CSK, cost Vijay Mallya Rs 494.5 crore. Mumbai Indians cost Rs 496 crore for Mukesh Ambani.”

I think playing High profile players is costing us big $$$, Barnwell only cost us 50k, now you do the maths if he is worth it or not… lol

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Posted: 04 May 2013 12:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Agree with the line up except for AB should be WK, Bring in Rahul Or Sohal for Arun Karthik, One Spin option in form of Murali Karthik would suffice> Other spinner if required is Gayle.

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Posted: 04 May 2013 01:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Tiwary (Bat)
Gayle (Bat/Bowl)
Kohli (Bat)
AB.D (Bat)
Barnwell (Bat/Bowl)
Henriques (Bat/Bowl)
Zol(Bat)
Rahul/Jackson (Bat/W)
Vinay Kumar (Bowl)
RP/ Zak/ Abhimanyu Mithun (Bowl)
Murali Karthik. (Bowl)

Y play 4 bowlers when u have 2 all-rounders.. instead we can atleast strengthen out batting depth

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Posted: 04 May 2013 10:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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sudhirRCCB - 03 May 2013 09:56 PM

Frankly speaking I have seen Barnwell played only once , and that was in 2010 match between RCB vs Guyana , RCB won that match Guyana did not played well in that match but Barnwell Stuck there till the end and made 33 runs Highest for there Team Batting Innings

Sorry bro,Barnwell scored 28(30).

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Posted: 05 May 2013 10:23 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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tiwari should play well in the opening spot
our opening will be stronger

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Posted: 05 May 2013 03:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Tiwary seems ok so My XI s
1)Tiwary (should play fast)
2)Gayle
3)Kohli
4)ABD
5)Henriques
6)Barnwell /Rampaul
7)sohal /rahul /pujara (if he comes can go up in order)
8)Vinay kumar
9)Murali kartik
10)RP
11)jaydev unadkat

Give Barnwell a chance he may become mini gayle as he’s a powerful all rounder..
leave arun karthik he s not a hitter u r wasting a batsman spot n he s not gud keeper better ABD should do that.. where s pujara a very good talent s missing.. we r already near play off’s he s not still ther..

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Posted: 05 May 2013 10:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Barnwell can bat in top order so how about sending him to open with Chris

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Posted: 06 May 2013 01:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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No, dont change the opening combination.  Tiwary is ideal and needs to be persisted with.

Tiwary,Gayle, Pujara,Virat,AB,Henriques,Arun/Sheldon,Barnwell/Ravi Rampaul,Vinay, Murali Kartik,RP

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Posted: 06 May 2013 02:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Team is Ok !
Replace Arun with Pujara !!
Pujara is fit to play today !!!!!!!
All the best for RRRRRCCCCBBBB!!!!!

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Posted: 06 May 2013 02:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Christopher Barnwell T20 stats :
36 matches, 34 innings, 602 runs (highest 88), average:20.75, SR 117.34
18 wickets (best 2/11),  average 33.16, Economy Rate 7.19

From his stats I dont see why everyone here is going ga ga about Barnwell. He fails the most essential test of a bits and pieces T-20 cricketer - his bowling economy rate is higher than batting strike rate :(

So clearly based on pure bowling abilities, Rampaul is miles ahead of of him.

The problem with RCB batting line up is that if Gayle/Kohli/AB fall early there is no one to consolidate the batting. So in a big chase like the one against Mumbai, if big 3 fall quickly, RCB can lose by a huge margin of 40-50 runs. Can Barnwell plug this hole ? No !!! Remember we arent really looking for a lower order hitter. We are looking for someone who can consolidate things if top order falter. Infact I’d say if at all we drop Rampaul to get extra battng option, its better to go for Vettori than Barnwell

Look at Vettori’s T20 stats in comparison to Barnwell :
100 matches, 903 runs (highest 57), average:18.42, SR 122.52
102 wickets (best 4/20),  average 23.39, Economy Rate 6.34

Now tell me if at all we replace Ravi Rampaul with someone who should it be ? A rookie who averages 20 with the bat with a strike rate of 117 and who is at best mediocre with the ball (18 wickets in 36 matches with economy rate of 7.19) or a proven performer with tons of international experience who averages similar with the bat (18 against 20) with a slightly better strike rate (122 against 117) and is a way better bowler with way better economy rate (6.34 against 7.19)

However I dont think we should replace Rampaul at all. Rampaul was the wicket taking bowler for us which Vettori is not (He is great at containing though). Also with Pujara fit now, we can get rid of Arun Kartik and wont need extra batting option at all

my Xi for today:
1. Gayle
2. Tiwari
3. Kohli
4. Pujara
5. AB
6. Henriques
7. Rampaul
8. Vinay
9. RP
10. Unadkat/Syed
11. Murali kartik

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Posted: 06 May 2013 05:24 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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BloodbathAndBeyond - 06 May 2013 02:59 PM

Christopher Barnwell T20 stats :
36 matches, 34 innings, 602 runs (highest 88), average:20.75, SR 117.34
18 wickets (best 2/11),  average 33.16, Economy Rate 7.19

From his stats I dont see why everyone here is going ga ga about Barnwell. He fails the most essential test of a bits and pieces T-20 cricketer - his bowling economy rate is higher than batting strike rate :(

So clearly based on pure bowling abilities, Rampaul is miles ahead of of him.

The problem with RCB batting line up is that if Gayle/Kohli/AB fall early there is no one to consolidate the batting. So in a big chase like the one against Mumbai, if big 3 fall quickly, RCB can lose by a huge margin of 40-50 runs. Can Barnwell plug this hole ? No !!! Remember we arent really looking for a lower order hitter. We are looking for someone who can consolidate things if top order falter. Infact I’d say if at all we drop Rampaul to get extra battng option, its better to go for Vettori than Barnwell

Look at Vettori’s T20 stats in comparison to Barnwell :
100 matches, 903 runs (highest 57), average:18.42, SR 122.52
102 wickets (best 4/20),  average 23.39, Economy Rate 6.34

Now tell me if at all we replace Ravi Rampaul with someone who should it be ? A rookie who averages 20 with the bat with a strike rate of 117 and who is at best mediocre with the ball (18 wickets in 36 matches with economy rate of 7.19) or a proven performer with tons of international experience who averages similar with the bat (18 against 20) with a slightly better strike rate (122 against 117) and is a way better bowler with way better economy rate (6.34 against 7.19)

However I dont think we should replace Rampaul at all. Rampaul was the wicket taking bowler for us which Vettori is not (He is great at containing though). Also with Pujara fit now, we can get rid of Arun Kartik and wont need extra batting option at all

my Xi for today:
1. Gayle
2. Tiwari
3. Kohli
4. Pujara
5. AB
6. Henriques
7. Rampaul
8. Vinay
9. RP
10. Unadkat/Syed
11. Murali kartik

Completely Agree.. Y is everyone forgetting Vettori?

But pls let go RP.. Rampaul, Vinay, Henri, Unadkat, MK are good enough for 20 overs. Add a batsman like Sohal/ Zol.

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Posted: 07 May 2013 07:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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avidRCBian - 06 May 2013 05:24 PM
BloodbathAndBeyond - 06 May 2013 02:59 PM

Christopher Barnwell T20 stats :
36 matches, 34 innings, 602 runs (highest 88), average:20.75, SR 117.34
18 wickets (best 2/11),  average 33.16, Economy Rate 7.19

From his stats I dont see why everyone here is going ga ga about Barnwell. He fails the most essential test of a bits and pieces T-20 cricketer - his bowling economy rate is higher than batting strike rate :(

So clearly based on pure bowling abilities, Rampaul is miles ahead of of him.

The problem with RCB batting line up is that if Gayle/Kohli/AB fall early there is no one to consolidate the batting. So in a big chase like the one against Mumbai, if big 3 fall quickly, RCB can lose by a huge margin of 40-50 runs. Can Barnwell plug this hole ? No !!! Remember we arent really looking for a lower order hitter. We are looking for someone who can consolidate things if top order falter. Infact I’d say if at all we drop Rampaul to get extra battng option, its better to go for Vettori than Barnwell

Look at Vettori’s T20 stats in comparison to Barnwell :
100 matches, 903 runs (highest 57), average:18.42, SR 122.52
102 wickets (best 4/20),  average 23.39, Economy Rate 6.34

Now tell me if at all we replace Ravi Rampaul with someone who should it be ? A rookie who averages 20 with the bat with a strike rate of 117 and who is at best mediocre with the ball (18 wickets in 36 matches with economy rate of 7.19) or a proven performer with tons of international experience who averages similar with the bat (18 against 20) with a slightly better strike rate (122 against 117) and is a way better bowler with way better economy rate (6.34 against 7.19)

However I dont think we should replace Rampaul at all. Rampaul was the wicket taking bowler for us which Vettori is not (He is great at containing though). Also with Pujara fit now, we can get rid of Arun Kartik and wont need extra batting option at all

my Xi for today:
1. Gayle
2. Tiwari
3. Kohli
4. Pujara
5. AB
6. Henriques
7. Rampaul
8. Vinay
9. RP
10. Unadkat/Syed
11. Murali kartik

Completely Agree.. Y is everyone forgetting Vettori?

But pls let go RP.. Rampaul, Vinay, Henri, Unadkat, MK are good enough for 20 overs. Add a batsman like Sohal/ Zol.

team with pujara looked strong but rp blew it away

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Posted: 07 May 2013 07:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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BloodbathAndBeyond - 06 May 2013 02:59 PM

Christopher Barnwell T20 stats :
36 matches, 34 innings, 602 runs (highest 88), average:20.75, SR 117.34
18 wickets (best 2/11),  average 33.16, Economy Rate 7.19

From his stats I dont see why everyone here is going ga ga about Barnwell. He fails the most essential test of a bits and pieces T-20 cricketer - his bowling economy rate is higher than batting strike rate :(

So clearly based on pure bowling abilities, Rampaul is miles ahead of of him.

The problem with RCB batting line up is that if Gayle/Kohli/AB fall early there is no one to consolidate the batting. So in a big chase like the one against Mumbai, if big 3 fall quickly, RCB can lose by a huge margin of 40-50 runs. Can Barnwell plug this hole ? No !!! Remember we arent really looking for a lower order hitter. We are looking for someone who can consolidate things if top order falter. Infact I’d say if at all we drop Rampaul to get extra battng option, its better to go for Vettori than Barnwell

Look at Vettori’s T20 stats in comparison to Barnwell :
100 matches, 903 runs (highest 57), average:18.42, SR 122.52
102 wickets (best 4/20),  average 23.39, Economy Rate 6.34

Now tell me if at all we replace Ravi Rampaul with someone who should it be ? A rookie who averages 20 with the bat with a strike rate of 117 and who is at best mediocre with the ball (18 wickets in 36 matches with economy rate of 7.19) or a proven performer with tons of international experience who averages similar with the bat (18 against 20) with a slightly better strike rate (122 against 117) and is a way better bowler with way better economy rate (6.34 against 7.19)

However I dont think we should replace Rampaul at all. Rampaul was the wicket taking bowler for us which Vettori is not (He is great at containing though). Also with Pujara fit now, we can get rid of Arun Kartik and wont need extra batting option at all

my Xi for today:
1. Gayle
2. Tiwari
3. Kohli
4. Pujara
5. AB
6. Henriques
7. Rampaul
8. Vinay
9. RP
10. Unadkat/Syed
11. Murali kartik


Good points highlighted here. After yesterdays match RCB should be focusing their attention on getting the bowling combination right as that is their biggest weakness right now. With this bowling we are not even going to qualify for the playoffs let alone win the title. Yes this sounds harsh but that is the reality. The batting looks settled with Pujara clicking as an opener. The only change that I would recommend in the batting front is get Arun Karthik out of the team and let ABD keep wickets . Instead of Arun Karthik bring another quality bowler. So we have to play five bowlers. Also RP Singh has to be done away for rest of the tournament. Its time to bring in bowlers like Pankaj Singh, Harshal Patel and Zaheer Khan if fit. For the allrounders slot we can continue with Henriques for now as he is contributing with the bat. His bowling needs improvement though. Time is running out for RCB and we need to take some tough decisons in the bowling front. Out of the remaining 4 games RCB should target to win atleast 3 for sure.

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Posted: 07 May 2013 08:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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Yes may be tiwary could have opened, but its our bowling that is worrying me more than batting. In last 4 matches our bowlers have had bad games. We need to get some strategy in to bowl yorkers, length wont work ..

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Posted: 07 May 2013 09:45 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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Simple strategy, bowl first and we can chase with such a powerful batting lineup… lol

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